Generational matrix

This is a generational matrix from GEDMATCH which shows that we all, in likelihood share a common ancestor.

I hope to find it. This Ray Buie looks very promising.

paquet758@aol.com rfcommagere@gmail.com pedra.ane@gmail.com ermoye2@hotmail.com Peggy McClinton <peggymcclinton@yahoo.com> plt883@gmail.com

Matlock Medlock is promising through Buie and JS?

Commagere is a mixed bag as this match is both paternal and paternal to him

MTDNA

So today I had a little moment of Zen.

23andAncestry provides you with an MTDNA haplogroup when you sign up with them to have your DNA done. The MTDNA is DNA that is passed down from mother to her children only.  Like the YDNA haplogroup, this is useful for finding deep history.

I have been lucky enough to have been blessed with a pretty rare MTDNA Haplogroup.

This help me because my GGG Grandmother, Mary Matilda Robertson is a member of the Haplogroup as well.  And so was her mother, and her maternal grandmother.

This means I can go to 23andMe or GEDMATCH and pull out all my matches that are also this rare haplogroup.

Then I can contact all of the people and see if anyone can give me any insight - this will mean they will have had to have done some serious maternal research.

However, if nothing turns up I am not done. I will then cross compare their matches with people that match me. Those crossover matches may not have direct maternal lines to our MCRA, but they still could be related to us both, even if I do not know their MTDNA haplogroup.  That is because once there is a father son relationship, the MTDNA haplogroup is lost. For example, Mary Matilda, had a daughter,  Arvilla Fenters. She was the same haplo group. She married James Davis. That means her son, Charles Davis was her haplogroup. However, none of Charles children will inherit that Haplogroup, they will instead get his wife's MTDNA.

Making generational charts of all of these matches might point me in the direction of getting rid of this brick wall.

More 23anMe nonsense. Again, I cannot stress how terrible their site is.

Just how backward is 23andMe? I had an aunt tested there but unfortunately her test did not give any results. So now I get a banner across my page every time I log in saying... the test failed, request a refund. I did that and received the refund a couple months ago. But the banner persists. I asked 23andme to remove the bad test from my account.. This is the response:

Becca, Sep 10, 8:20 AM:

Hello Lance,

Thank you for your reply. This ticket has been escalated to me for review. Our records show the sample for ******* is registered to your account under the email address *****. Unfortunately, we are unable to remove her profile from your account without closing the entire account. We apologize for any inconvenience.

You have two options for how to proceed. Your first option is to simply ignore the profile for *********.

If you would prefer not to see ***** profile, your second option is to transfer ****** profile to a different 23andMe account. Please note this would require that you set up a new 23andMe account. After completing the profile transfer, if you email us from the email address associated with the new account we can then close the whole account. If you would like to proceed with this option please refer to the instructions included in our previous message for how to complete a profile transfer.

Please let us know how you would like to proceed.

Best Regards,

Becca
The 23andMe Team

DNA Ancestry VS. 23andMe

YIPPEE..  So I got my results back for my aunt. She tried 23andMe two times. I decided to try her one more time with Ancestry. Bingo, before 23andME would have even acknowledged they had her sample, I had the results.

This is very exciting. Now why did 23andME find it so hard to get results?  One difference I note is that Ancestry uses a "stabilizer". A fluid that is added to the test results. Perhaps that is why. Also, since Ancestry seems to get to analyze the sample more quickly, it seems that 23andME might also want to think about adding a stabilizer.

Another idea, perhaps 23andME is more stringent with their results. I ran into a small hiccup uploading the sample to GEDMATCH. I needed to analyze the DNA results file from Ancestry and found that there is an unusually high number of "no calls" in the sample. (roughly 2.1% compared to my sample which was 1.8%) Not really sure what all that means, perhaps the DNA was not intact and the information could not be obtained, but the result, according to GEDMATCH is that I will have an unusually high number of false matches in the new test. Well, that really is not a problem to me. If valid matches are confirmed by a few of the known ancestors, I am fine with her just being the added hint to solve a mystery.

GUIDER ROBINSON REVEAL

Got a new hint today. I do not know why I hadn't thought of doing this before, or maybe I have and this is a new test, but here is what happened.

So on GEDMATCH I have identified a woman that is related to the same MRCA as my and my cousin Vicki. This MRCA couple are both brick walls to me.

I researched this woman (GERALDINE REVEAL FRUMP) and was unable to find anything. I searched my surnames on Ancestry for REVEAL to now avail. Geraldine was actually illegitimate. Her mother's maiden name was REVEAL and her father's name was BROWN.

Well BROWN gets high hits on my 23andME test. (If you don't know, on 23andME they do this surname search where they compare listed surnames in your matches against the occurrence of those names in the general population and then give you a weighted average of the top 20 or so names. The idea being, the names at the top of the list probably occur in your tree.)  Brown, though a common name, has a high probability of being significant in my tree according to 23andME. Because of this, I searched up the BROWN line for Geraldine. Unfortunately, nothing panned out.

Now today, I decided to go into Vicki's test. She has kindly shared her DNA results with me on Ancestry. This means I can look at her results as if they were my own. When I typed in REVEAL for a surname search in her tree, I was pleased to find a match. And as I researched this match a little further found that her REVEALS also crossed into the REVEAL ancestors of Geraldine.  Also they are all from OHIO which is exactly the right location for my brick walls.   Also the REVEAL in the matches tree, was married to an Emmaline BROWN. Hmm... Looks very promising.

EMALINE BROWN   and WILLIAM IRVIN REVEAL   (1844-1933)

New Ancestry feature

So ancestry came out with a very helpful new feature. It does not do away with AncestryDNA helper, but is a great supplement.

Now you can get information from all your matches, even if they haven't logged in for years.

When you click on a match in the DNA list, you can now look at who they share in common with you.  It is the center button between pedigree/surnames and map/locations.  Very, very helpful, especially with those that do not have a tree or have not shared their DNA test with you.

REGLI CHRISTEN COPPINI and now REIDY

So, the test results for Don Coppini came back. He is a neighbor to my maternal 1C1R in Ferndale.

Through researching my DNA matches and a lot of GOOGLEing, I determined we may be related because we both shared CHRISTEN/REGLI names. He, in his actual tree, and I, because my paternal great grandmother's name was probably REGLI and CHRISTEN came up as a high probability surname on my sister's 23andME DNA test.

Well Don's test did not match anyone. Not me or my brother or sister or cousin. I thought at first it was a waste of money. However, using AncestryDNA helper for Chrome, I was able to cross tabulate a few matches. The first one that came up was someone that just had JOSEPH ANTONE REGLI in their tree. I was familiar with that name, so that was a plus. However, the next one was more exciting in that he was a close relative of Don Coppini that matched me and one sister.

This is a pretty good indication that we are related to DON just do not share any segments with him. This is more common the further back in the tree we go. At this point we are showing approximately a fourth cousin relationship.